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		<title>By: robbi60</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>robbi60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a bigger reference to the lemniscate and cardioid. I discussed about that in two posts in the Infinite Summer forum. Maybe you are interested. http://infinitesummer.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=410&amp;start=10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a bigger reference to the lemniscate and cardioid. I discussed about that in two posts in the Infinite Summer forum. Maybe you are interested. <a href="http://infinitesummer.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=410&amp;start=10" rel="nofollow">http://infinitesummer.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=410&amp;start=10</a></p>
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		<title>By: That Was the Week That Formerly Was : Journeyman</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>That Was the Week That Formerly Was : Journeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with passivity. I’m talking about an active surrender here. The actively-surrendered reader will sift through reams of mathematical arcana in order to tease out the implications of an oblique reference, or follow an obscure narrative [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with passivity. I’m talking about an active surrender here. The actively-surrendered reader will sift through reams of mathematical arcana in order to tease out the implications of an oblique reference, or follow an obscure narrative [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Infinite Summer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; infinitedetox: Waving the White Flag: Reading as Rehabilitation</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Infinite Summer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; infinitedetox: Waving the White Flag: Reading as Rehabilitation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] passivity. I&#8217;m talking about an active surrender here. The actively-surrendered reader will sift through reams of mathematical arcana in order to tease out the implications of an oblique reference, or follow an obscure narrative [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] passivity. I&#8217;m talking about an active surrender here. The actively-surrendered reader will sift through reams of mathematical arcana in order to tease out the implications of an oblique reference, or follow an obscure narrative [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil the Ethical Werewolf</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil the Ethical Werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rarely have such momentous questions been pondered unstoned.&quot;

Dude, this is what I do for a living.  Now if you&#039;ll excuse me, I have to get back to editing the part of my paper on whether it&#039;s wrong to commit child abuse against adults, torture a bicyclist who&#039;s not a bicyclist, or murder the dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rarely have such momentous questions been pondered unstoned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude, this is what I do for a living.  Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I have to get back to editing the part of my paper on whether it&#8217;s wrong to commit child abuse against adults, torture a bicyclist who&#8217;s not a bicyclist, or murder the dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Criminally Bulgur</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Criminally Bulgur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with both of you that the natural thing to do would have been to mention &#039;chess,&#039; and that plenty of people fail to mark off their mentioning of words orthographically.  This is, however, Borges, so it leaves the possibility open that he is doing something intentionally weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with both of you that the natural thing to do would have been to mention &#8216;chess,&#8217; and that plenty of people fail to mark off their mentioning of words orthographically.  This is, however, Borges, so it leaves the possibility open that he is doing something intentionally weird.</p>
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		<title>By: southpaw</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>southpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In a riddle whose answer is chess, what is the one word you must under no circumstances use?&quot;

Is &quot;chess,&quot; as used in that sentence, the sign or the signified?

Is there any plausible riddle whose answer is chess itself rather than the word?  If I ask you a question, can you properly answer it by sitting down and playing a board game?

Rarely have such momentous questions been pondered unstoned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In a riddle whose answer is chess, what is the one word you must under no circumstances use?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is &#8220;chess,&#8221; as used in that sentence, the sign or the signified?</p>
<p>Is there any plausible riddle whose answer is chess itself rather than the word?  If I ask you a question, can you properly answer it by sitting down and playing a board game?</p>
<p>Rarely have such momentous questions been pondered unstoned.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil the Ethical Werewolf</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil the Ethical Werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, put the quotes around &quot;chess&quot; -- but in some kind way I think my mistake helps my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, put the quotes around &#8220;chess&#8221; &#8212; but in some kind way I think my mistake helps my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil the Ethical Werewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil the Ethical Werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right, Bulgur, Borges doesn&#039;t put the quotes around chess in the way that a philosopher should when mentioning a term.  But there&#039;s a question of whether he&#039;s still really mentioning the term and using philosophically inappropriate punctuation, or whether he&#039;s really using it and the punctuation is correct.

I think the fruitful question to ask here is: What is the answer to a riddle?  Is always it a series of words, or the thing the words describe?  As I see it, answers are linguistic entities, so I&#039;d think it was a series of words.  Answers probably shouldn&#039;t differ in ontological status from questions, which really should be linguistic entities.  (After all, questions don&#039;t describe anything, so it&#039;d be hard to point to the nonlinguistic thing the question was.)  But maybe there&#039;s some further argument to be given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, Bulgur, Borges doesn&#8217;t put the quotes around chess in the way that a philosopher should when mentioning a term.  But there&#8217;s a question of whether he&#8217;s still really mentioning the term and using philosophically inappropriate punctuation, or whether he&#8217;s really using it and the punctuation is correct.</p>
<p>I think the fruitful question to ask here is: What is the answer to a riddle?  Is always it a series of words, or the thing the words describe?  As I see it, answers are linguistic entities, so I&#8217;d think it was a series of words.  Answers probably shouldn&#8217;t differ in ontological status from questions, which really should be linguistic entities.  (After all, questions don&#8217;t describe anything, so it&#8217;d be hard to point to the nonlinguistic thing the question was.)  But maybe there&#8217;s some further argument to be given.</p>
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		<title>By: Criminally Bulgur</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Criminally Bulgur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 11

As written, the Borges sentence is

&lt;i&gt;[. . .] the answer is chess &lt;/i&gt;.

not

&lt;i&gt;[. . .] the answer is &#039;chess.&#039;&lt;/i&gt;

so &#039;chess&#039; is being used in the sentence (i.e., the answer is the game of chess itself, not the word &#039;chess&#039;).  Since &#039;chess&#039; is being used, I think it is right to think it is self-violating.</description>
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<p>As written, the Borges sentence is</p>
<p><i>[. . .] the answer is chess </i>.</p>
<p>not</p>
<p><i>[. . .] the answer is &#8216;chess.&#8217;</i></p>
<p>so &#8216;chess&#8217; is being used in the sentence (i.e., the answer is the game of chess itself, not the word &#8216;chess&#8217;).  Since &#8216;chess&#8217; is being used, I think it is right to think it is self-violating.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil the Ethical Werewolf</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/the-garden-of-looping-paths/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil the Ethical Werewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nitpick, but I&#039;m thinking that properly respecting the use/mention distinction would keep Borges&#039; riddle from being self-violating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nitpick, but I&#8217;m thinking that properly respecting the use/mention distinction would keep Borges&#8217; riddle from being self-violating.</p>
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