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		<title>By: Watch From Paris with Love Online</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/expectation-and-ecstasy/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Watch From Paris with Love Online]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[itsvkrtorllpmlxcswao, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisis50.com/forum/topics/watch-from-paris-with-love&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Watch From Paris with Love Online&lt;/a&gt;, mhuczoi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>itsvkrtorllpmlxcswao, <a href="http://www.thisis50.com/forum/topics/watch-from-paris-with-love" rel="nofollow">Watch From Paris with Love Online</a>, mhuczoi.</p>
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		<title>By: jmb</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/expectation-and-ecstasy/#comment-539</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously, is not even one of you guys going to finish this thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, is not even one of you guys going to finish this thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Criminally Bulgur</title>
		<link>http://asupposedlyfunblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/expectation-and-ecstasy/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criminally Bulgur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the bloggers have given up, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the bloggers have given up, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: John O</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arghh.

A couple of clarifications:

We haven&#039;t reached a &quot;mountaintop,&quot; we&#039;ve reached a plateau.  As Wallace said, and I&#039;m paraphrasing, just wait until you can hook yourself up to your TV and have [insert person of choice here] blow/eat you.

Some Republicans are smart enough to know that the nutjobs are just that.  Some Republicans see it like I do.  No, there are not many left of any significance.  

J]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arghh.</p>
<p>A couple of clarifications:</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t reached a &#8220;mountaintop,&#8221; we&#8217;ve reached a plateau.  As Wallace said, and I&#8217;m paraphrasing, just wait until you can hook yourself up to your TV and have [insert person of choice here] blow/eat you.</p>
<p>Some Republicans are smart enough to know that the nutjobs are just that.  Some Republicans see it like I do.  No, there are not many left of any significance.  </p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>By: John O</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel the same way, almost creepily, jmb.  And I&#039;m beginning to think DFW outsmarted all of us again by getting out when he did.

I have this vague and inarticulate thought racing around in my head that we have reached a kind of a mountaintop in terms of the power of the Televisual Medium (see also E Unibus Pluram) over its audience.  People shouting &quot;Hitler!&quot; at Obama and his policies; bringing guns to political events, believing government=bad with no further contemplation, et al, ad nauseam.  

I &quot;watch&quot; (!  But have also met the man in a very intimate setting long before he became POTUS) Obama and see a pretty nice, intelligent, natural consensus builder with a lovely wife and two so far pretty normal and lovely little kids, who (Pres. Obama) honestly and sincerely believes that the government is not the answer to every problem we face; a man whose been around the block a little in terms of not having a whole lot to live on for many of his formative years and playing around on the edges of a Road Poorly Chosen in his misspent youth.  Who plays basketball with some degree of seriousness.  IOW, a guy I can relate to pretty well.  

And 30% of this country sees him entirely differently, based almost exclusively on &lt;i&gt;which televisual medium-channel they &quot;see&quot; him through&lt;/i&gt;, adding the caveat that there are some conservatives who more or less feel the same way.  But the lunatics are running the agenda-asylum, I don&#039;t think that is worth debating.  And these people think what their own eyes are telling them just CAN&#039;T be as valid as what Sean and Rush are telling them.  

TV won.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way, almost creepily, jmb.  And I&#8217;m beginning to think DFW outsmarted all of us again by getting out when he did.</p>
<p>I have this vague and inarticulate thought racing around in my head that we have reached a kind of a mountaintop in terms of the power of the Televisual Medium (see also E Unibus Pluram) over its audience.  People shouting &#8220;Hitler!&#8221; at Obama and his policies; bringing guns to political events, believing government=bad with no further contemplation, et al, ad nauseam.  </p>
<p>I &#8220;watch&#8221; (!  But have also met the man in a very intimate setting long before he became POTUS) Obama and see a pretty nice, intelligent, natural consensus builder with a lovely wife and two so far pretty normal and lovely little kids, who (Pres. Obama) honestly and sincerely believes that the government is not the answer to every problem we face; a man whose been around the block a little in terms of not having a whole lot to live on for many of his formative years and playing around on the edges of a Road Poorly Chosen in his misspent youth.  Who plays basketball with some degree of seriousness.  IOW, a guy I can relate to pretty well.  </p>
<p>And 30% of this country sees him entirely differently, based almost exclusively on <i>which televisual medium-channel they &#8220;see&#8221; him through</i>, adding the caveat that there are some conservatives who more or less feel the same way.  But the lunatics are running the agenda-asylum, I don&#8217;t think that is worth debating.  And these people think what their own eyes are telling them just CAN&#8217;T be as valid as what Sean and Rush are telling them.  </p>
<p>TV won.</p>
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		<title>By: Infinite Summer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jmb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The other point I would add was that finishing the “brick” became an addiction in and of itself and added to the construct.&quot;

I think this is a very important point. The book has a cyclical structure: its beginning takes place chronologically after its ending, so there is a structurally built-in temptation to go right back to the beginning and start reading again (ok, quit groaning), to find out more about &#039;what happens&#039;. Cf. the obsessive repeated viewing of the Entertainment by its victims. I suspect DFW consciously wanted IJ the book to be a kind of real-world instantiation of IJ the fictional Entertainment. Making the point that we seek that kind of addictive quality in our entertainment.

I know I got addicted to, not reading it sequentially over and over, but picking it up and rereading chunks of it, for a long time after I finished it front-to-back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The other point I would add was that finishing the “brick” became an addiction in and of itself and added to the construct.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is a very important point. The book has a cyclical structure: its beginning takes place chronologically after its ending, so there is a structurally built-in temptation to go right back to the beginning and start reading again (ok, quit groaning), to find out more about &#8216;what happens&#8217;. Cf. the obsessive repeated viewing of the Entertainment by its victims. I suspect DFW consciously wanted IJ the book to be a kind of real-world instantiation of IJ the fictional Entertainment. Making the point that we seek that kind of addictive quality in our entertainment.</p>
<p>I know I got addicted to, not reading it sequentially over and over, but picking it up and rereading chunks of it, for a long time after I finished it front-to-back.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Blank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Dayo.  But there are a couple of points I would add -- I found that a lot of the &quot;fun&quot; of Infinite Jest was how insightful and right he got the the whole psychic construct of addiction.  The descriptions of Boston AA meetings, the atmosphere of the halfway/rehab facility, the desperation to get well.  The mother screwing around with teenage tennis player. Addictions are garbage cans...once one is closed another opens.

The other point I would add was that finishing the &quot;brick&quot; became an addiction in and of itself and added to the construct.  I thoroughly enjoyed this masterpiece like few others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Dayo.  But there are a couple of points I would add &#8212; I found that a lot of the &#8220;fun&#8221; of Infinite Jest was how insightful and right he got the the whole psychic construct of addiction.  The descriptions of Boston AA meetings, the atmosphere of the halfway/rehab facility, the desperation to get well.  The mother screwing around with teenage tennis player. Addictions are garbage cans&#8230;once one is closed another opens.</p>
<p>The other point I would add was that finishing the &#8220;brick&#8221; became an addiction in and of itself and added to the construct.  I thoroughly enjoyed this masterpiece like few others.</p>
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		<title>By: John O</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just too long without comment.

Well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just too long without comment.</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
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